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  The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?

  by SydBarrett in

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  any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.

  terrifying.

  what's your gut feeling?

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  Unless of course, they commandeered the sub and sailed off with it to places unknown.

  Eventually they would have to surface somewhere with a team of people to open the hatch for them.

  But since they haven't surfaced somewhere that would be noticed I supposed they are on the bottom wishing they had gone somewhere else for a thrill.

  Sadly, time is quickly running out. Even if they find them the time to rig some manner of lifting them safely makes a rescue impossible. This is recovery,,, if they find it at all.

  No GPS. What about sonar?
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  PROOF Mormons have the truth

  by neat blue dog in

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  daniel prophesied that god would “set up a kingdom” that would “never be destroyed” and would “stand for ever” (daniel 2:44).

  in making this prophecy, he spoke of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints... and it will continue to progress until it has “filled the whole earth”... hundreds of thousands of people are baptized every year.

  the book of mormon is being translated in many languages.

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  I think they have been drinking too much of what they are supposed to be drinking
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  The Walking Wounded Interviews - available soon in DVD format

  by Lady Lee in

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  2. beliefs

  a few people know that dr. penton, grace/mouthy and i participated in a series of interviews about the jws.

  the producer/director of the vhs videos, james kohl, has been working to update the videos and release the series in dvd format.. i am thrilled the videos will be soon available.

  kohl had done a few other interviews but they were never released.

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  What does disturb me is that people have taken the original videos and edited them without giving proper ownership rights to the creators and may be making money from them. I doubt they did this with the owner’s consent or they would say as much. The videos were made for a purpose. When that didn’t happen the Kohls, father and so, made the videos available for free.
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  The Walking Wounded Interviews - available soon in DVD format

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few people know that dr. penton, grace/mouthy and i participated in a series of interviews about the jws.

  the producer/director of the vhs videos, james kohl, has been working to update the videos and release the series in dvd format.. i am thrilled the videos will be soon available.

  kohl had done a few other interviews but they were never released.

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  This is the one Grace did:

  https://youtu.be/pHv6TYHjZ3k

  And this might be Dr Penton ‘s

  https://youtu.be/acamI-QZw1Y
  
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  The Walking Wounded Interviews - available soon in DVD format

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few people know that dr. penton, grace/mouthy and i participated in a series of interviews about the jws.

  the producer/director of the vhs videos, james kohl, has been working to update the videos and release the series in dvd format.. i am thrilled the videos will be soon available.

  kohl had done a few other interviews but they were never released.

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  Mine is available on you tube:

  https://youtu.be/n6FGc-4KZpE

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  One person has broken it down into pieces:

  https://youtu.be/r-RZJBwQ8aQ

  they are easily identified as a girl with a JW mask on
  
  
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  CSA - An Offender Typology.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in relation to a study program being undertaken i came across this accredited article and thought it would be worth sharing with this group.. https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/osa148h6/release/2.

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  The cases of my 13-yr-old aunt and I happened in the early '60s.

  This deceit has been going on for many many years. Some ex-JWs have told me their abuse occurred even earlier.

  Historically, most people did not want to deal with this issue. It was never reported. "Uncle Bill" was funny, or liked to diddle little kids. It just happened and no one did much to stop it.

  Very rarely was the accused shut out of the family. Mostly it was hidden allowing the accused to continue to abuse the child or move on to find other victims. One estimate is that a true pedophile has up to 70 victims before he is stopped.

  I say a true pedophile because the definition of pedophile is that the person main attraction is to children. But not all people who sexually abuse children are pedophiles. Some just take advantage of a situation and children are easy targets. My father and stepfather do not fit the definition of pedophile even though both had many victims. My father was an situational sexual offender. If no adult was available he turned to children. My stepfather, on the other hand, thought all females were his for the taking regardless of age. Both regularly had sex with women. That was most likely their preference. But under-age girls would do just as well if they were available.

  Unfortunately, we don't make that distinction among the exJW community. Some may be pedophiles but I suspect most are situational offenders or molesters.

  Either way, the WTS, like the pubic ignored the problems (thank you Dr. Freud who lied to protect his reputation).
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Mental Health

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  this psychiatrist makes sense to me.. https://youtu.be/l5wcqc6m-gi.

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  When you have to turn off your brain and your emotions to exist within a high control group people WILL develop mental health issues. The longer you are in the group, the more serious the problems might become.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Mental Health

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  this psychiatrist makes sense to me.. https://youtu.be/l5wcqc6m-gi.

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  stan livedeath

  quite a number of ex jw's ive met over the years have health issues--mostly imagined. Mostly women

  This often results in psychosomatic health problems which are very real. Not imagined. Constant stress and depression wears the body down.

  Vanderhoven7

  I wonder how many JWs wander around thinking just about everyone else in the congregation is happy, so there is something wrong with me and not my religion.

  Nobody knew how depressed or suicidal I was. I just plastered a smile on my face and did all the things expected of an elders wife. I suspect most people are the same. In my over 20 years talking to ex-JWs they almost all say the say thing.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Mental Health

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  this psychiatrist makes sense to me.. https://youtu.be/l5wcqc6m-gi.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Do you agree with his conclusion that most Jehovah's Witnesses are unhappy and chronically depressed?
  

  I do. Most would deny it even to themselves. Many suffer psychosomatic health problems that are misdiagnosed or really are the symptoms of long-term undiagnosed depression turned inward.

  Remember: They are not allowed to be depressed. They are God's "happy" people.

  The year after year after year of sacrificing your individuality, identity, interests, education, etc is enough to make anyone depressed.

  Never being good enough to make it through keeps everyone on a perpetual treadmill, constantly trying to be good enough. The repeated "soon" for the end to come, which never comes. This creates a constant anxiety about making it through when the end finally does come... if it comes in your lifetime.

  And they turn to a wide range of behaviors to mask those feelings, which they aren't supposed to have because they are "happy".

  People who leave often need counseling. Not just because of the impact of leaving, but also because of the terribly negative impact of living such a repressed life for years.

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  Jazzbo, while I am not a fan of Bergman, he actually is an accredited therapist from a recognized university. (

  • M.Ed. (1971) in counseling and psychology, from Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan)
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  A year since I have been back

  by Lee Marsh in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a year ago i came back to jwd.

  the 2 years before that.

  when covid stated, i was diagnosed with colon cancer.

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  Lee Marsh

  Please stay on topic.

  If you want to continue your discussion then please start your own topic